Is Transformers Racist? The Discussion Continues:

Since the outrage of the Transformers 2 character's known as Skids and Mudflap (also known as the term Sambots) has only intensified since the film broke box office records last week, and friend and I have been verbally jousting on whether this can be construed as racist or not. 

Below is the transcript of our facebook conversation in which Crash makes an interesting cameo. Feel free to voice your opinion. Does Transformers 2 take it too far? Or are people being too sensitive?

Naysay: 

"So I saw transformers not racist at all. I think the problem is that people still look at themselves as these stereotypical characters. I didnt find it racist probably because I dont see those characters emulating me."

Denzel: 

"It's not that we see ourselves in these characters because I sure as hell don't. It's that other people see us in these characters and they depict us as such in the media. My perspective on black people isn't going to be changed by Skids and Mudflap, but what about those from other countries who associate characteristics such as not reading with being black, or black youth who are too young to understand this is not who they're suppose to be. You know well enough that some black people go out of their way to confirm stereotypes. This is why they think black people can't be doctors. Cause the world tells them they're suppose to be Skids and Mudflap. This is akin to white supremacists or KKK saying all blacks are unintelligent thugs except for instead its coming from Michael Bay and Transformers."

Naysay:

"And the twins did have a very important part to the movie. If being comic relief in a film isnt important enough, because it is, those two destroyed Devastator mostly by themselves, well they made him weaker. Also protecting Sam along with Bumble Bee. Watch it first!"

Denzel:

"Comic relief is important but not important enough to constitute a character's entire existence. I'll give it to you that I haven't seen the film and am making judgments based on other people's reactions. When the DVD is released I'll be better able to validate my views because I refuse to pay 8+ dollars for a movie ticket just to expound upon how delusional you are. That is already a given."

Naysay: 

"In general you will hate the 2nd movie. It has way more plot holes than the 1 you noticed in the first one. But also, there's a character named Wheelie, with three teeth, dumb, I associated him as the hillbilly robot. Since when is a movie racist becuase they act upon stereotypes. If that's the case Crash is a racist movie. Is it different because one is comedy and one is drama? Is that fair enough to call a movie racist?"

Denzel: 

"I don't think Crash is racist because it presents stereotypical characters with layers. Larenz Tate and Chris Bridges aren't just thieves. They're actually somewhat intelligent, thought-provoking, are capable of realizing the faults of their behavior, and religious. True racist stereotypes are one dimensional. They say you can only be this and nothing else."

FALLOUT FROM FIRST TRANSFORMERS:

Naysay: 

"QUIT BEING SENSITIVE! If you watch the old cartoons Jazz was voiced by Scatman Crothers. One of the originators of "cool". He spoke with an "ethnic" style. Showing more diversity. So Hasboro didnt have to hear from other black people "how come there arent any black autobots?" "Why they all gotta be white?" Just like barbie, and care bears, and GI Joe and every other thing black adults scrutinized to ruin the youth of children. Besides half you niggas say "Whats crackin lil bitches" on a daily basis. So quite being sensitive. Jar Jar was different."

Denzel: 

"My problem wasn't with Jazz being "black". My problem was Jazz being "black" and having stereotypical black characteristics a.k.a. being flashy, breakdancing, and destroying the car. From what I hear, Transformers 2 is taking it to a whole different level."